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title: Ryan Berman thinks about courage as a business model
description: On this episode of our podcast, Groupthinkers, we sit down with Ryan Berman as he thinks about courage and how leaders can apply this quality to change how they strategically plan.
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# Ryan Berman thinks about courage as a business model

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On this episode of our podcast, Groupthinkers, we sit down with Ryan Berman as he thinks about courage and how leaders can apply this quality to change how they strategically plan.

> *“A lot of what I realized is just what a cloudy time it is right now for leading. We’re bombarded with too much stuff and too many directions and that slows us down and causes paralysis. So, a lot of what I’m looking at is creating clarity for companies. And if you create that clarity, it’s easier for you to lead.”*
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> Ryan Berman, founder of Courageous and author of “Return on Courage”

### USING COURAGE TO LEAD

In this episode of Groupthinkers, our host, Justin McCord, is joined by Ryan Berman, founder of Courageous and author of “Return on Courage.” Berman discusses how leaders can use the Return on Courage model to make changes and integrate their values in everything they do.

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- Creating your central courage system
- Committing to change

 

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